Do You Want A Stranger Living In Your Home? Enter the baby nurse.

By Babe | Illustration by Ana Hard

In our series The Debate, our community of real moms tackle the pros and cons around the idea of a baby nurse. The truth is, like so many decisions around child rearing, there is no right or wrong answer.  At HATCH, our job is to give voice to both sides of any debate, peppering real mom wisdom with the necessary facts so that you can make the best decision for you and your family.

After “And what shall, we name him?,” the question of whether or not to get a baby nurse is probably one of the heaviest decisions a mother can make. Of course, so much of that choice depends on finances, living space, other children at home, proximity to family and various work schedules, but one thing’s for sure – a baby nurse can be a wonderful resource in figuring out life post-babe (not to mention getting a little shut-eye), or totally intrusive, depending on your POV.      

“A baby nurse can be incredibly helpful in many ways for the right parent,” says Dr. Aliza Pressman, parenting expert and co-founder of seedlingsgroup and host of the Raising Good Humans podcast. “But you have to manage expectations. Some baby nurses are wonderful for their experience, but parents often forget that they don’t have a professional healthcare approach. If you do hire one, make it for a limited period of time  – no longer than five months – so that your baby doesn’t get attached to a temporary figure.”

In this episode of The Debate, we hear from two of our HATCH mamas – one who lived for hiring a baby nurse (#noregrets) – and one who preferred that the intimacy of those first few weeks at home be shared exclusively with her partner and babe. Whatever you decide, remember that you’re still mama and you call the shots. “If a mom has the ability to take care of herself and sleep and get support, whether with a nurse, doula or mother-in-law, it’s always beneficial,“ says Dr. Pressman. “Just don’t forget that you’re still the mom. You’re not an incompetent person just because there’s a professional there telling you they know best.” 

All Nurse, All The Time

Dini Klein
founder of Prep and Rally family meal prep subscription
Andi, 6 
Jolie, 4
Solomon, 3 months

“With my first daughter, I was working as a private chef in New York City and my hours were nuts. I was working until the day I gave birth and was working again two weeks after having her. I don’t really take breaks. If I don’t work, I don’t make money. So I knew I needed a nurse to help out. We were living in a one-bedroom apartment with a pull-out couch, so it was not ideal. We had her for one week, and the rest of the time I was juggling it all. I’d put the baby in the carrier and try to get through the day, and it was super stressful. I just didn’t have the space to accomodate someone comfortably even though I needed the help. 

By the time I had my second daughter, we had moved out of the city and had more space. Stupidly, I thought, I got this. I can do it on my own. Meanwhile the baby had reflux and was up all night. It was a lot to juggle, and if I could do that experience all over again, I definitely would’ve gotten a nurse. 

I’m due in January with my third and it’s not even a QUESTION. I’m having someone for the first month or two, and possibly more. I’m going to play it by ear and see how things go. My work schedule is slightly different now. I’m not a private chef but I run a family meal subscription business, so I need to be at my desk working, and then twice a week, I test recipes. So I’ll have someone here to help me with sleep training, and it gives me the space to tend to my two other kids who still need attention. Plus I have lunches to make and work to balance. I need to sleep at night to get my work done and be a human being. 

The best part of having a baby nurse is sleep. I need a good eight hours, otherwise I’m off my game and I feel miserable and cranky. I need my sleep. My husband can function on four hours of sleep and be totally fine. I need my sleep and that’s a reason right there to have one, especially if you’re working and need to function the next day. The “nap when the baby naps” idea is a very new mom thing. When you have other kids and you’re running carpool and working, it’s a totally different situation.

With a baby nurse, it’s all about finding someone who jives well with you and who you feel comfortable with. Now we’re a bit more set up. She’ll have her own little domain with a bedroom and bathroom, but we’ll still be under one roof. The key is to find someone a friend has used, or go based on references. I don’t have time to sit and interview millions of people. I need someone I know is fantastic and committed, which is easier said than done. I also think it’s about having no expectations. I’m going to play it by ear and be flexible with everything. It may be a totally different situation, so I’m going to feel it out.”

No Nurse, No Thanks

Chrystie Neidhardt
Director of Wholesale, HATCH
Esme, 2

“The ironic thing is that we were supposed to have a baby nurse, but in the end, we didn’t and I’m so much happier for it. Because Esme was my first, we weren’t sure what to expect. I heard from friends that a baby nurse is helpful in the first few weeks – that I could get sleep and she’d take some of the pressure off. So we got a great recommendation from a friend and signed up for two weeks with the possibility of extending. However, that same friend ended up getting pregnant and delivered right before me.

I ended up having an emergency c-section. I wasn’t really mobile at all, and as soon we came home from the hospital, my partner and I discovered very quickly that we had to work as a team and figure out what the best strategy was for us. I think that was helpful for our relationship and in going forward with the baby. We started dividing up the labor right away. Because my milk was slow to come in after the c-section, we supplemented the 3:00am feeding. So we figured out what’s the best schedule that works? Because we were using a bottle, it took the pressure off me a bit. I would feed at midnight and sleep until 6:00am. Dave is a much better sleeper than me, so he would sleep from 9:00pm-3:00am and then stay up with the baby and go back to sleep once I got up for the day. We figured out what worked best and also I was much more comfortable being able to experience these new and super raw emotions just with my partner and without someone living in our home. 

At first I was nervous without a nurse. People always say, “Your motherly instincts will kick in,” but that puts a lot of pressure on new moms. You don’t know what you’re doing and you’re navigating so many things being thrown at you. In the end, you do the best you can. But it forced my husband and I to rely on each other. What do we think is best, how do we want to handle this situation? So we had to trust our own judgement and ultimately I think that was the right thing for us.

The only time I felt like I really needed help was when Dave went back to work after two weeks. Those first few nights were difficult because he needed to sleep. There was so much more responsibility on me, and I wasn’t completely active. I was very much still recovering, so those days were particularly hard. Plus, some of those postpartum feelings started creeping in, and at some point, I felt really alone. But I don’t know that I needed a baby nurse. If I have a second child, I’ll just make sure my mom is there or a companion can come support me when he goes back to work.” 

Our Community's Top Reasons for Getting a Baby Nurse:

"I was scared and didn't know what to expect. I wanted an expert in the room."
"I know myself and I knew that if I wasn't sleeping, I'd be miserable."
"I wanted to learn how to care for my baby from someone who had cared for many babies before mine."
"We didn't know jackshit about raising a baby."

Top Reasons Our Community Didn't Get A Nurse:

"I figured she couldn't stay with us forever, so what was the point?"
"It was such a tender moment that I wanted to share it between myself and my husband."
"I can't share my home with a total stranger."
"I wanted to say that I raised my child from the very beginning."

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I Have ZERO Sex Drive After Birth The Baby Killed My Mojo.

By Babe | Illustration by Ana Hard

At first you were just emotionally and physically exhausted. And then you started faking being emotionally and physically exhausted. The truth is, ever since the baby was born, having sex with your partner is lower on the enjoyment list than changing a diaper explosion with the onesie still on. So you think there must be something wrong with your relationship and that you guys are totally doomed. 

Good news. The reality is you’re like the rest of us just dealing with lots of change, hormonally, existentially, physically, and it can take a toll in various ways. In our series, “Is it Normal,” we’re here to remind you just how normal these seemingly dark feelings are in your new role as mother. So we invited Jean Fitzpatrick, a relationship therapist + New York-based psychotherapist to help answer your questions and guide you on a path that will no doubt be filled with these VERY real, very “normal” experiences, and how you can cope moving forward.

So if you can’t figure out how to get back to feeling sexy and sexual, Jean’s gonna break it down.

“Various aspects of new motherhood can serve as ‘brakes’ to your desire,” Jean says. “After pregnancy and birth you have a new relationship with your own body.  You may need to rethink what makes you feel sexy and desirable. 

“For example, instead of comparing your body to your pre-pregnancy self, accept that recovery takes time. Return to regular workouts as soon as your doctor recommends. Rather that pressure yourself to look a certain way, enjoy the process: the endorphins you release, and the muscle strength you’re gaining. Be proud of your amazing, life-giving body. You’ve grown a baby!

For some women, skin-to-skin contact with the baby is so relaxing — or so demanding — that they feel like a unit with the baby and may not feel a need or even desire for more physical closeness. 

Team up with your partner to create new paths to intimacy. Shift your focus from having more sex to sparking no-pressure moments of desire. Make eye contact when you talk, text love notes, try massage, dance in the kitchen. Often couples focus on date night, hoping it will work magic, but there’s no substitute for brief, playful encounters from day to day. 

Shift your focus from having more sex to sparking no-pressure moments of desire.

If you’re back at work, then balancing the demands of baby, household, and career may be leaving you stressed, depleted, or even resentful of your partner. If you’re overwhelmed with tasks, it’s time to set up a regular “business meetings” with your partner to be sure chores are shared equitably. Also consider how to use your resources to get additional help during this exhausting period.”

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Founder & CEO Of Parsley Health, Dr. Robin Berzin Dishes On Why Having A Career And Being A Mom Is Not Either-Or Situation

Functional medicine doctor, Founder & CEO of Parsley Health, Robin, is a total powerhouse and at the tail end of her second pregnancy. 

Here, this inspiring mama (to say the least) sounds off about the top foods, supplements, and lifestyle practices she’s leaned on to keep her feeling good through all nine (ok, ten!) months of pregnancy. 

Plus, her hilarious pregnancy-test story, plans for maternity leave (can we say startup + toddler + newborn, oh my!), the truth about infertility, and why she feels motherhood is not an either-or situation.

Current state of mind?

Feeling good. Cannot complain! I’ve been running around like a crazy person, per usual. I’m definitely ready to rock & roll but also need every last second I can get to second to prepare my work life before the baby comes. 

Girl or boy?

Girl. Which will be a nice balance with our two-year-old boy. After this, I think we’re done having babies — although my husband just gave me the side-eye for saying that. He likes the idea of having more, in the abstract sense. I’m not sure I could handle a third pregnancy though.

How has pregnancy been?

Fortunately, both of my pregnancies have been relatively easy. I never got sick, and there haven’t been any complications, so far. I know that for many women, it can be tough, so I am very grateful for this.

Path to pregnancy?

While I was never one of those women that got it on the first try, it also didn’t take very long. The first time I was 34 and wanted to be pregnant before I turned 35 — we made it just in time. With the second, I was 37 and figured it would be more challenging given my age. I wasn’t stressed about getting pregnant but nonetheless, since I’m looped in with some of the best fertility doctors, I reached out to a buddy of mine from Columbia Med School to explore my options. I was curious about potentially taking Clomid or doing IUI if we needed to jump-start the engines. 

Meanwhile, I ran all of my tests and took the results to him. As we read through my stats, he audibly cringed at the labs; the numbers weren’t good, aside from my progesterone level, which was VERY high! Upon reading it, he gaped and suggested I might actually be pregnant — either that or I had a cyst. I told him both were impossible. I just had my period, but it was a weird period and only lasted a day. And, I definitely didn’t have a cyst. He explained that the “period” may have been implantation bleeding. I took a test and guess what?! Positive. I still can’t believe I was calling my fertility friend trying to sort out how to get pregnant when all the while, I was pregnant! 

Are you taking maternity leave?

I’ll be honest, it’s tricky. I certainly don’t have a typical job, and it’s not as if I can check out for three months. That said, I’m trying to balance taking some time off to bond with my baby while also being reasonably available for my team. Ideally, I’d like to be present for the most critical things and ease back into work. We’re lucky to live in an era of Zoom conference so I can chime in remotely. The ability to do this alleviates some of the pressure of being in the office and allows me to reacclimate gradually. 

When I had my son in 2017, we were in thick of it.  I was in the middle of raising a round of funding and trying to close before I delivered. Ultimately, I had to pause, have the baby and go right back to raising. That was not fun and very scary, actually. It turned out fine, better than fine, in fact, but it was nerve-racking at the time. I had never raised money in that way before, and so it was all new to me; raising and momming. After my son was born, we closed the round in the Spring. In hindsight this was the best thing that could have happened as I ended up with a set of  investors that I met after he was born. Had the timing not happened the way that it did, I would not have met them, and they ended up being extremely helpful. Although, at that moment, I felt like I was sliding down the wall with my fingernails.

Plus, the company was a lot smaller — we were about 15 people. When I think about it compared to now, I was doing everything from seeing patients, to making all the decisions — there weren’t any senior leaders outside of myself.  Now, we’re in a different place. We have a big team, including incredible executives, and I feel much more supported. That’s not to say it won’t be challenging, but certainly feels more manageable. Nonetheless, I hopefully have an opportunity to change things for women by showing you can do all of these things. Becoming a mom or having a family is not an either-or situation. It’s possible to have a career and be a mother. 

Any wellness tips? 

First and foremost, I’ve tried to stay super active to maintain muscle mass and insulin sensitivity because gestational diabetes is real. The reality is, we live very sedentary lives, and there’s a risk of becoming less insulin sensitive when we’re pregnant. Women are surprised when they’re fairly healthy with no history of diabetes, and they get it. In an effort to avoid this, I’ve kept to things like light yoga, weights, and resistance bands. 

Secondly, I can’t stress enough the importance of good food. I always tell my patients (and myself), to keep eating like your healthy self — lots of clean fats, high-quality wild-caught fish, (avoid the high mercury fish), and take an omega supplement. Our prenatal includes one, but if yours doesn’t, then add that to your routine. Omega 3s are the building blocks of a baby’s brain, and they are essential for your milk supply. Also, load up on fiber, and lots of greens, but don’t overeat!

A lot of women get the message that they’re pregnant and should eat for two! Historically women were active nomadic hunters & gathers — they weren’t sitting at a desk all day hunched over and eating. The truth is you don’t need any extra calories in the first trimester, and for the second and third, it’s only an additional 200 extra calories, which is the equivalent to a handful of nuts. I always tell our members to eat healthily and regularly. Now is not the time to intermittent fast, especially when you are trying to get pregnant or you are pregnant but at the same time don’t go crazy eating. 

How did you decide to launch Parsley?

Everything laddered up and led me to where I am now. During medical school, I co-founded Mother Healthcare Company, which gave me some experience with startups and how technology was changing healthcare. Plus, I’ve always been passionate about primary care, chronic disease, and integrative medicine.

In 2015, it came time to make a decision around the direction of my career and I decided to go out on my own. I started what I would now consider the beta program of Parsley. I was keen on testing my idea at a micro level to gather some proof points. While I always had the intention to build something massive, I bootstrapped it initially to solidify the concept. I had seen startup life a little bit and felt it was essential to operate at the pilot-scale before going bigger. It also gave me real data to support my concept and see actual patients in that format. In 2016 we officially formed the company.

What are some issues you often see related to fertility?

While fertility is not the focus of Parsley, it’s all related. Many of the problems we see with infertility are underlying blood sugar issues. When people overeat refined sugar, flour and processed foods it can lead to unhealthy and irregular menstrual cycles, PCOS, and metabolic hormonal disarray. In short, people are eating way too many carbs and having too much sugar. While that can work for some, it doesn’t work for most. When that gets cleaned up, the hormones tend to fix themselves. 

For hormone health, same as with pregnancy, it’s essential to have lots of good healthy fats, tons of organic veggies that balance your blood sugar, and give your body lots of phytonutrients to help manage stress. A lot of the metabolism issues that create hormonal imbalances are caused by chronic overstimulation of life, work, and exercise, that perfectly come together in a stress picture and drive irregular cycles or missing periods. Sometimes women need to manage where their head’s at above anything else. Ultimately, your period is a vital sign. 

Lastly, many women are on the pill for a long time, and that might be OK, but it can cover up your period symptoms and hormones, making it difficult to know what they’re dealing with in advance. We hear a lot that women think if they go off the pill, they will get pregnant, but that’s not always the case.

Any advice?

If you know you want to have a family and that’s important to you, get going. After having my son it dawned on me how mistaken I was in thinking that having a child meant I would have to trade success for motherhood. It was a very narrow way of seeing myself. I didn’t fully realize that my capacity for creation was greater and more magnificent than both of these things; becoming a mother is an AND not an OR. That said, I could not have known this until I lived it.

Yael Braun On Fuck Cancer, Finding Your Mom Tribe, Plus Carbs And More Carbs!

If there’s anyone to aspire to, it would be Yael. Co-founder of Fuck Cancer and Motherlucker, she’s charming, bright, and stunning to boot! Her confidence makes you want to stand a little taller, be a little better, own your sh*t, and do what’s right. Recently, while in LA, I swung by her and her husband, Scooter Braun’s home, to chat about her work in the cancer space, the Insta Pot, and why she doesn’t really care about music—ironically enough. @yael @letsfcancer @motherlucker_ 

If life were a song?

That would assume I know anything about music or the name of ANY song for that matter. Best kept secret—crazy I know, considering Scott’s job! It’s hilarious, he’s always so annoyed, as I won’t even remember to turn music on in the house. I enjoy it of course, but it doesn’t play a significant role in my life. Even if we’re having a party, Scott will have to remind me to turn on music. Food on the other hand, I got!

On your support system:

Both my parents and Scott’s parents live in the neighborhood, which was always my dream. It’s incredibly important for us to have a strong support system. The idea that we can raise children alone is to some extent absurd. There’s a reason that every other culture in history uses the tribe or communal approach to raising babies. Not only do we need it, but they need it too. They learn different things from different people. It’s incredibly lonely to try to raise children by yourself—I’m beyond grateful to have support.

On Motherlucker:

About 2 years ago, I began Motherlucker while I was on maternity leave. At the time, everything I was reading was either glitter-washed-pinterest-mom or super dark, and I was craving to connect to more authentic stories that accepted the highs, lows, and ridiculousness of motherhood. When I began, I wrote about having miscarried, which no one talked about and it’s such a common thing! Once I put it out there, so many women I knew opened up and it was because I gave them a safe space to do so. Motherlucker became the digital version of that, where women could express whatever was on their mind in regards to motherhood or raising up their relationships in a nonjudgmental space. Today Motherlucker has moms contributing from all walks of life—with young kids, older kids, special needs, adopted—all with different and beautiful experiences that rounds out the voice and perspective of Motherlucker.

On Fuck Cancer:

I started Fuck Cancer when my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer, nearly 10 years ago. Similar to Motherlucker, it was born out of a need for an authentic and vulnerable conversation around a really emotionally charged topic. At the time, I found the cancer space to be either daisies + daffodils or super dark. There was nothing that infused a sense of humor, and if you loose your sense of humor than you’ve really lost it all. Plus, no one was talking to the youth and the importance of early detection—a really necessary part of the fight. At first I looked around to join other efforts, but because of my age and what I thought needed to be done, I didn’t fit into anybody’s plan. They only wanted my money, of which I had none. So, I started Fuck Cancer. Then, about 5 years ago, we merged with another organization called Fuck Cancer, which is our experiential & fund raising arm—my now co-founder Jules, is one of the most amazing women I know. It’s funny, we’re both Jewish girls from Canada who started separate charities named Fuck Cancer after our moms got sick. For the longest time people would confuse us, but they did events and we did campaigns. When we first met it was super tense, but I proposed that we join forces. Jules wasn’t as keen on the idea, so we stayed in touch for a few years, until we found a way to make it work. I’m so happy that we did!

On self-care:

The kids always roll with me! It’s the best thing that I do for my sanity. If we travel, they come, if we go out, they come. In fact Jagger came with us on tour for 3 weeks! I never want to have to say no to things because of my kids, but I don’t want to leave my kids either, because it’s time that we’ll never get back. This way I figure I still get to be part of these incredible experiences that I’d be sad to miss, but I also don’t have to miss my kids growing up.

On meeting Scott:

We met through mutual friends—he tricked me into our first date—and within a few hours he said we were going to spend our lives together. There’s no one like him. He’s wonderful, charismatic, and kind. We’re a great fit. I always say that I want to punch him in the face and kiss him at the same time, which I think is the sign of a healthy relationship. We push each other to do better/be better and sometimes that frustrates us, but we’re always on the same team and have a lot of fun.

Do you think it’s important for kids to see their mom working?

Yes and no. I think it’s important for kids to see their mom happy and fulfilled, whatever that means. For some women that means working and for others it’s not.   

Exercise?

I used to, but haven’t for a minute because I tore my ligament about a year ago. I went too hard postpartum with all the relaxant in my system. Eventually it will heal and I’ll be able to workout again, but let this be a word to the wise—ease into working-out after having a baby, there’s no rush! We always think that everything should go right back to normal, but it took 9 months to make the baby and it’ll probably take about 9 months to unwind it. So chill the f*ck out for a second.

Food!

Eating is carbs to me—lots of carbs. I love food! This is partly why I like to work out, because I’m never not going to eat something. Ever since I was three years old I loved cooking. I try my best to be balanced, knowing that there are times that we’re going to be decadent and the rest of the time I figure it’s best not to eat like a frat boy. 

Cooking?

Depends on who I’m cooking for…my husband loves braised beef short ribs or I have girlfriends that are vegan and want Buddha Bowls. I’m also a huge fan of the Instant Pot. It’s like a slow cooker, but is a pressure cooker, which means dinner is ready in 20 min. It’s so quick, easy, and healthy. I give them as gifts all the time.

Beauty Routine?

Always wash your face! Every morning and every night to get your makeup and the day off of you. Followed by a good serum, moisturizer, and an eye cream that’s right for your skin. Using an eye cream is new for me, as it recently came to my attention that I’m not 21 anymore! And lastly, sunscreen! This is a must, no matter the weather. I apply it to my face all year around and in the summer to my body. I also tend to avoid drinking a lot of alcohol or coffee, which are both dehydrating.

Any advice?

For young or new moms, find your tribe of women with kids around the same age, that are going through the same experience as you. I don’t think we can over value this, as it’s absolutely changed my experience as a mom. When I first became a mom, I was lonely, sad, and didn’t know what the hell I was doing. None of my friends had kids, their lives were all the same and mine was suddenly upside down. Once I made really good mommy friends—some of which are still my best friends and I think will be for the rest of my life—everything changed for the better.

Birth Stories: Arielle Charnas

By Arielle Charnas | Photo's Courtesy of Arielle

The embodiment of beauty and confidence, style sensation, Arielle Charnas shares her unexpected story of giving birth for the second time. @ariellecharnas

This is a story of Esme, the birth of my second daughter. 

A few weeks leading up to my due date, I found out that my baby was transverse, which means she was positioned sideways as opposed to head down. In hopes of getting her to turn, I did everything from a series of moxibustion with my acupuncturist, to swimming laps, to even putting ice packs at the top of my belly, to no avail.  As a result, we scheduled an ECV (external cephalic version) for June 18th, at which they planned to induce me so I could give birth vaginally.  As it turns out, she had other plans. 

The night she was born, we were meant to go to my mom’s 60th birthday party in Brooklyn around 6 pm.  As Brandon was finishing getting ready, I was laying in bed fully dressed when suddenly it felt as if I got the wind knocked out of me. It was scary but passed once I stood up, so I attributed it to Braxton Hicks. I gave it a few moments and then it happened again! It was alarming and felt very different from when I went into labor with Ruby, so I called my doctor’s emergency line. She told me that it sounded like contractions but also might be Braxton Hicks, therefore, to be on the safe side she insisted we head to the hospital because of my baby’s transverse position. I told Brandon that we had to go to the hospital immediately, so he grabbed a bag and threw some clothes in it. I looked at him like he was crazy as this was undoubtedly Braxton Hicks and we’d be home in a couple of hours. Never in a million years did I think I was in labor!

Once we got to the hospital, and I described the sensation of “getting the wind knocked out of me,” they hooked me up to a contractions monitor, did an EKG (to rule out any heart or chest issue since I was complaining of pain), checked my cervix, plus the baby’s position. As it turns out she was fully breech (her head was in my ribs), my cervix was soft but not dilated, I had light contractions, and my EKG was perfect. I was sure this had to be Braxton Hicks, right?? They thought maybe but wanted to update my doctor before making a ruling and discharging us. Fully assuming it was a false alarm, we ordered sushi for delivery at home.

The doctor arrived 20 minutes later, checked me and said: “We’re going to meet your baby tonight!” Plus, I was dilating fast, and they needed to do a C-Section because of the baby’s breech position. I started crying because I was nervous, excited, and scared all at once! Immediately they prepped me for surgery and brought me into the operating room. They hooked me up to IV’s, gave me an epidural, and lay me on a metal table with a curtain hung across my body. I was terrified and kept asking for Brandon. Finally, they let him into the room with full scrubs on, and I told them that they could go ahead and start (as if I was in control), of which they laughed and said they were already in! I didn’t feel any of it until they started pushing and shoving things aside in my belly to get to her out, which gave me the most intense nausea! All of a sudden I heard a cry pierce the air and she was born at 10:05 PM. They wrapped her up and handed her to Brandon because I was so sick and shaky I couldn’t hold her. Brandon held her in one arm and my hand in the other while they sewed me up. I desperately wanted it to be over so I could be with her! Finally, they finished, took the curtain down, inserted anti-nausea medication into my IV, and handed Esme to me.

As I began to regain sensation in my body, they brought me to the recovery room, where Esme immediately latched onto my nipple and started feeding; it was the most incredible feeling in the world.

Then, like a burst of energy, my mom came running in hysterically crying, followed by Brandon’s parents and my sisters—most of them were a bit tipsy from the party, but it was hilarious. Plus, my sisters couldn’t get over the fact that I still had a full face of makeup on as we were ready to go to the party when I went into labor. Moreover, since I didn’t get sweaty pushing (with a vaginal delivery) everything stayed in place!

The next day, Brandon went home and picked up pajamas for me, along with my HATCH set (cashmere robe and socks), a toothbrush, pillows, iPhone chargers and clothes for Esme. I had him pack so much less then I did with Ruby, as I knew what essentials I needed this time. We spent a few days at the hospital, and by the second day, I was able to stand up and walk around—baby steps at first but was doing laps around the hallway by the time we left.

After my experience, I don’t believe in birth plans; it’s a waste of energy considering I gave birth vaginally with the first and had a C-Section with the second. Of course, my “plan” was to deliver both of my babies vaginally, but ultimately it was out of my control. To think, with Ruby I was in labor for 24 hours, and with Esme only 4 hours, but in the end, the result was the same, I have two beautiful baby girls.

At-Home Workouts to Do With Your Kids How relaxing.

As we’re all struggling to make sense of the world, few activities can give us an instant dose of zen like a good old fashioned, heart pumping workout. Chalk it up to serotonin, or maybe just the fact that you haven’t moved since you woke up, but whatever the reason, getting in some exercise can mean the difference between a never-ending feast of existential dread and just small, snackable moments of it. Couple that with your kids’ over-the-top energy levels and your quest to keep them busy, and you just might find that a mommy-and-me workout is exactly what you both need to stay sane in these trying times. We’ve rounded up a few, below:

The Class By Taryn Toomey: Taryn Toomey is an icon in stylish circles for her deeply cleansing, spiritually-based workouts that not only get the heart rate going, but nurture the soul. Now, your kids can also reap the benefits via The Class for Kids, where she and daughters Finley and Lettie lead a kid-friendly version of The Class from Taryn’s apartment. This low-fi edition is designed to get you moving with your kids so you can both enjoy putting hands on heart, hopping around, clearing the heart and everything else that makes this practice special.

Karma Kids Yoga: The philosophy of this popular kids yoga class is based on using a variety of tools that both children and adults can take away from class and use throughout their lives. Karma Kids’ practice includes animals, nature and other child-friendly features as kids learn to stretch their bodies in creative ways. Through basic and challenging yoga poses, as well as partner and group poses, yoga games, mindfulness activities, music and stories, Karma Kids promotes strength, flexibility, coordination, and body awareness, as well as breathing and visualization techniques that teach focus, relaxation and self-control for both kids and grown-ups, alike.

Kids Get Moving: Got a Thor-obsessed, Jedi-master, Ironman-in-training going apesh*t around your house? All you have to do is google “Superhero workouts” and you’ll find a treasure trove of activities for your wannabe ninja warrior. We love this Thor-themed Avengers workout. Scroll through the Kids Get Moving Youtube page and you’ll find different variations featuring Spiderman, Star Wars, Batman, The Joker and more. Swords not included. 

IntenSati for Kids: Patricia Moreno’s popular ab busting, glute sizzling, core blasting, high energy workout is now tailor made for kids. Think jumping jacks, warrior poses and fun chants all set in the backdrop of Patricia’s basement, complete with kid kitchens and other toys in the background, because #quarantinelife. Little warriors in particular will love the “punch it out” move, especially when paired with mantras like “I really really want it!” and “I believe I will succeed!”

The Body Coach: Joe Wicks, AKA the Body Coach has a super popular Youtube channel among mothers and kids, alike, and for good reason. His fitness method uses short intense High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT or, colloquially, ‘HIT’) workouts that’ll have you and your little ones panting in no time. It actually wasn’t until the coronavirus lockdown in the United Kingdom that he began “P.E With Joe” on YouTube to try to help children stay active, and boy are we glad he did.

Get This Thing Out Of Me, Baby

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Daphne Oz On What She's Craving

It’s rare to find someone like Daphne…stunning and wickedly smart with a kind of warmth that feels akin to standing in the sun. Therefore, as this magnetic mama of two (soon to be three) nears the end of her pregnancy, I stopped by her home to chat about her cravings for the last 8 months, what’s next after 6 incredible years on ABC’S The Chew & if she were to liken this go-around to a song, it’d be a fusion of Nina Simone’s Lilac Wine and a remix of I Put A Spell On You. @daphneoz

Current state of mind:

Perplexed—how did my due date sneak up on me so fast?? Plus excited to meet our baby girl!

And tired…

Weeks?

Almost 38!

Cravings?

All the carbs. I always crave pizza, but I feel like that’s just my everyday life. Also, Greek salad, oddly enough, homemade chocolate chip cookies, this insane recipe for yellow cake I just developed, Carissa’s Honey Oat Loaf with salty butter, strawberry smoothies (yogurt, dates, frozen strawberries, spinach, collagen, total EFA oil) plus ripe mango.

Eating/drinking/doing first thing post baby?

UNI! And a glass of wine ALL to myself. Plus, Doritos (don’t judge), it’s been my “push present” ‘so to speak after my other two babies. Yes, I know they’re probably the worst things I could eat, but they’re so ‘effing delicious.

Been avoiding?

Raw fish, filters (clams, etc.), unpasteurized dairy and alcohol. Other than that, I’ve been pretty relaxed for the most part.

Cooking/eating throughout your pregnancy?

I’ve had a lot of smoothies, they’re just such an easy insurance policy of nutrition–I really got into them when I had bad morning sickness my first trimester plus they got me through the warm summer months. I’ve also had a lot of bone broth, salmon and avocados. And as of late, I’ve been roasting a lot of chicken and vegetables, with a ton of grain salads (with lentils or millet) paired with golden raisins, almonds, scallions, tons of parsley and a tart vinaigrette. My family loves turkey burgers, so we do a lot of those, too – I mash pinto beans into them as a binder, and they stay really juicy. I’ve really craved spicy-sweet and tart things, and have been making the Bomb Broccoli Salad from The Happy Cook a ton.

What’s your beauty routine?

I am a total product junkie, so I’m always trying out the best things I can find in natural beauty. Especially when I’m pregnant, I try to whittle away any of the things that have chemicals I can’t pronounce, unnecessary additives and fragrance, etc. But I obviously still want super-effective products. I find my skin actually looks best when I’m a) drinking plenty of water, b) eating my probiotics (I swig kefir and eat a ton of yogurt and fermented sauerkraut) and healthy fats (avocados, nuts, hemp and flax seeds), and c) not stripping it too much/keeping it super hydrated.

I take my make up off with coconut oil by warming a little between my fingertips & rubbing all over my face to loosen makeup then I remove with a warm, wet washcloth and repeat to make sure everything is off. I wash my face with Tracie Martyn Amla cleanser, and sometimes will add either True Naturals Polishing Grains or African Botanics Enzyme Polish. Once a week I’ll do a deep mask–I love May Lindstrom The Problem Solver and The Honey Mud. But most of all, I focus on hydration. I mist constantly–I love anything that smells pretty and promises a moisture or vitamin or “glow” infusion. And I slather on different face oils. Some favorites are from Odacite, Uma…but I am always shopping around. And eye cream, during the day only—I’m obsessed with Tata Harper’s. Before a big shoot, I’ll do a snail secretion mask—my favorite is from LA Pure.

Wellness secret throughout pregnancy?

I load up on vitamin D! Amazing for immune system and baby’s development. I also take a Metagenics prenatal packet every day.

Are you exercising?

I was really good about exercising until week 20. I was doing a modified Tracy Anderson routine that kept me feeling really limber and strong, plus a good sweat is such a nice way to clear your head. But we got so busy between travel and work this summer that I fell off the bandwagon. The last 3 months have been meant me rumbling with my kids and walking as much as possible. I have to say though, even just the investment of the first 20 weeks has paid off–I’ve had way less back pain this go round.

How are you feeling about your body & boobs?

Ha, well…I’m one of those weirdos that actually loves being pregnant. I feel no pressure to be anything other than in my own skin, growing this incredible little life. But talk to me three months post-partum when I still look 6 months pregnant…

Anything unexpected or different about this pregnancy?

I’m just amazed at how fast it’s flown by! The first time, you count every day, every week. You know exactly what fruit or vegetable represents the size of your baby. The second time you pay a little less attention. The third and my doctor has to remind me what week I’m in.

Birth plan, if you have one?

Each of my births has been different, so I am comfortable going with the flow and making sure baby is safe and happy throughout. I was able to have a natural birth with our son, and I found my recovery was much better than when I had to be medically induced with our daughter, so my goal is to go as naturally as possible. But whatever gets me a healthy, happy baby is good with me!

Words of advice for women pregnant with their first?

My best advice would be to let your experience be what it is and let your baby be your guide in many ways. We go into new motherhood with so many (unreasonable) expectations and so many (unfounded) opinions and so much (unsolicited) advice that it can be really hard to just be in the moment and feel it all happening. The more you enjoy the ride, the less you’ll feel like your version of motherhood is supposed to match anyone else’s.

What’s next since leaving The Chew?

It was a seriously wonderful six years with my Chew family–still can’t believe that was my first job! As we get ready to welcome our newest addition, it’s been a busy fall with guest appearances and working on some really fun TV projects in the pipeline. I also have a new book coming out in 2019, and will be relaunching www.daphneoz.com January 2018–cannot wait to share!!

Domestic Goddish…

Was a concept born out of my experience writing The Happy Cook. I realized why being in the kitchen makes me feel so relaxed: I take it easy on myself! It’s my chance to be barefoot in my sweats, listen to my music, improve a skill I love and share it with people I love. My kids are always underfoot or “helping”. My kitchen is a little bit more contained chaos than refined oasis. But it makes me endlessly happy.

I want to be proud of what I ultimately put on the table–whether it’s a fast snack for one or kids’ meal or a three-course seated dinner–without it ever feeling like a chore instead of a creative outlet. It got me thinking: being a domestic goddess sounds divine, but part of living up to that title means she has to be perfect all the time. The –ish gives you room to be free, make a mess if you need to, and wind up at the same sumptuously sexy meal.

My sister Arabella and I created a show for the launch of Facebook Watch based on the idea that your kitchen should be your kingdom: a place to have fun and feel confident. If you like easy, everyday food with a healthy twist, check it out at www.facebook.com/DomesticGoddish.

Do you think it’s important for your kids to have a working mom?

Loving my job and doing things that let me stretch my brain and my creativity make me happier, which I know makes me a better wife and a better mother. There are definitely days that work eats into time I would rather be home with my family, but I recognize that what counts long term is how we make our kids feel when we’re with them. I do whatever I can to make sure they know how special they are to me and how much I love them. And I want to make sure they’re getting the best version of me because they feed off of that. My motto has become: happy kids have happy parents to show them how it’s done.

Non-negotiables/values for raising your children?

We want our children to learn integrity so that their world view is built on something really stable, secure and grounded in themselves. And we let our kids be kids! My parents raised their children with a healthy sense of FOMO, which is why I love saying yes to new opportunities and adventures. I want every day to feel memorable. That’s what we’re trying to give our kids, too.

Any advice about career, life, being a woman or motherhood?

Too much to write here. Come check out www.daphneoz.com when it launches! But the general thrust is: it’s your one, precious life! With all that you’ve got going on, you should get to enjoy this time, too.

Recipes great for mamas-to-be:

One of my favorite plates when I’m growing a baby is roasted salmon on top of brown rice with some massaged kale (tear it up and rub with olive oil, lemon juice and salt to make it nice and tender), half a roasted sweet potato and some avocado. I drizzle some good quality olive oil over top and sprinkle with flaked salt. SO GOOD.

To make: Scrub an organic sweet potato and then put it on a baking sheet in a 375F oven for about an hour until it is soft and tender (you can also roast as chunks with just a drizzle of olive oil and salt, which will make this go a bit faster and give you some lovely golden brown crunchy bits). When you put the potato in, season the salmon with an Asian-style marinade of olive oil or grapeseed oil, a touch of maple syrup, Dijon mustard, crushed garlic or chopped scallions, a little sesame oil and soy sauce in a baking dish. If you have fresh ginger, you can grate that in too. Let it sit for half an hour to soak up all this flavor, then squeeze half a lemon overtop and pop it in the oven with the potato. The fish should be done in about 15 minutes, depending on how well you like it cooked (a good rule of them is generally 10 minutes per inch of thickness).

Recipes for breast feeding mama:

The three things that I found super helpful for boosting milk: oatmeal with coconut milk (or hey, a little cream and maple syrup – you deserve it); bone broth or chicken broth with mushrooms and barley; and air-popped popcorn that I drizzle with melted butter or coconut oil and sprinkle with salt and nutritional yeast (an amazing vegan protein that is loaded with B vitamins and tastes just like cheese!). I’m not sure it did anything to boost milk, but I did have a couple milkshakes now and then which at the very least boosted my mood.

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